Alexander Lichter: The State of Modern Web Tooling

Links- Codecrafters (sponsor): https://tej.as- Alex: https://www.lichter.io/- Alex on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheAlexLichter- Alex on X: https://x.com/TheAlexLichter- VoidZero: https://voidzero.dev/- Vite Plus: https://i.redd.it/l0d9yemja1pe1.jpeg- Talk including VitePlus: https://youtube.com/watch?v=5mn3EpWCcJs&t=16353s- Rolldown Vite: https://vite.dev/rolldown- Oxc Custom Lint Plugins discussion: https://github.com/oxc-project/oxc/discussions/10342#discussioncomment-12828320Previous Episode- Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/alexander-lichter-how-to-get-the-most-out-of-vue-js-and-nuxt/id1731855333?i=1000678873395- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5NdqcW2GnQ57IetEKD1dua- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y32Ko_CkbAISummaryIn this conversation, Alexander Lichter and I discuss the evolution of JavaScript tooling, focusing on the significance of VoidZero and Vite. We explore the need for a unified JavaScript toolchain, the challenges faced by existing tools like Webpack, and the importance of user experience in development tools. We also touch on the lessons learned from the Rome project and the future of VoidZero, including its funding and vision for open-source development. Chapters00:00:00 Alex Lichter00:06:33 The Evolution of JavaScript Tooling00:09:34 Understanding VoidZero and Its Purpose00:12:15 The Need for a Unified JavaScript Toolchain00:15:16 Vite: The Cornerstone of Modern Development00:18:21 Comparing Vite and Webpack00:21:17 User Experience in Development Tools00:24:34 Lessons from Rome and Biome00:27:14 Funding and Future of VoidZero00:35:03 Introduction to Rolldown and Its Origins00:36:00 Understanding Rolldown's Purpose and Features00:39:34 The Transition from Rollup to Rolldown00:42:46 The Need for Speed in Development00:46:31 The Role of Plugins in Rolldown00:49:53 OxLint: A Game Changer for Linting00:57:33 Exploring the OxC Toolkit00:59:48 Clarifying Relationships in the Toolchain01:03:43 Type Checking Strategies and Future Directions01:05:21 Understanding Isolated Declarations in TypeScript01:06:20 Performance Comparison: OXC vs SWC01:09:11 The Role of Code Formatting in Development01:12:18 Extensibility and Plugin Architecture of OXC01:15:21 Dev Server Performance and Cold Starts01:21:35 The Role of Developer Relations at VoidZero01:27:24 Encouraging Contributions from the Community01:31:19 Collaboration Between Different Developer Communities01:33:21 Future Prospects and Final Thoughts Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.